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Saturday, January 21, 2023

Behind the conspiracy; the reptilians.




george bush justin bieber alexander the great genghis khan

every chinese emperor queen elizabeth mark zuckerberg what do all these people have in common

well all of them hide a dark and cold secret just beneath their artificial

skins according to four percent of americans that is explain yourself

in 2013 public polling revealed that a small but not entirely negligible portion of the united states population

subscribed to the idea that a race of shape-shifting lizard people control our world by taking on human form and

gaining power by comparison the same poll found that seven percent of respondents believe the

moon landing was fake and five percent claim the beatles member paul mccartney died in 1966 and

was secretly replaced with a body double ever since around the early 2000s there

has been this idea floating around in our popular consciousness that a collection of famous people from

our political leaders to celebrities are secretly reptile-like aliens disguised

as humans these mysterious beings from another planet have been delicately influencing

us throughout our distant and not so distant past for malicious purposes

they control the government and popular culture telling us what to think and what to do

we could be a food source admittedly it is one of the more absurd and nutty conspiracies out there and to most

people it has rightfully become a sort of widespread joke however for others it is no joke at all

there are people who emphatically believe in this conspiracy often citing evidence from history cultural mythology

and archaeology that supposedly supports its existence where does this reptilian conspiracy

come from exactly what is the alleged evidence held up in its defense and why are there people who actually

believe in it to answer these questions i have a special guest joining us today dr david miano from the world of

antiquity channel hi trey thanks for having me i am really excited to be talking about reptilians

with you it's going to be fun i'll offer my observations as they come up let's get into it so sit back and enjoy

this installment of behind the conspiracy reptilians

despite the claims of many of its proponents the idea of reptilians is relatively young it appears that we only

need to go back a little under 100 years to see its origins this specific origin story is often

mentioned in various pieces of reptilian media as the story goes on january 29th 1934

the los angeles times newspaper reported that an engineer by the name of george warren schufeldt had conducted a mining

survey beneath the city of l.a specifically under fort moore hill shufelt claimed to have discovered with

the help of a so-called radio x-ray machine a complex labyrinth of underground tunnels and catacombs

his x-ray pictures revealed rooms of solid gold and massive subterranean passages going as deep as a hundred feet

below the surface and according to him this intricate network formed the shape of a lizard

after consulting with a hopi indian by the name of little chief greenleaf schufeld concluded that the tunnels were

in fact something out of an old hopi legend the remains of a vast underground city

built five thousand years ago not by humans but by the lizard people

according to chief greenleaf there was once three such cities along the pacific coast of north america constructed in

order to escape some kind of great fiery cataclysm one thousand families of these lizard

people dwelled beneath the earth keeping records on gold tablets this ancient race was also incredibly

intelligent the intellectual accomplishments of their nine-year-old children were equal with those of

present-day college graduates we are told that all of shufelt's attempts to excavate this forgotten city

beneath the city were unsuccessful to say the least we will talk about this more in depth

later but according to most retellings funding on his project dried up and his findings never saw the light of day the

ruins of the lizard people and their dozens of gold treasures are allegedly still down there in the dark

just beneath the bustling streets and sidewalks of america's second largest city

from schufeld's original discovery we see the emergence of several similar conspiracies soon after in the 1940s

occultist and writer maurice de real wrote a little-known pamphlet entitled mysteries of the gobi where he describes

a serpent race with bodies like man but heads like a great snake

these snake men had the ability to take human form in an unspecified prehistoric

era they engaged in a violent war with humans and were driven to near extinction where de real got this information is

anyone's guess in the 1990s dariel's writings would later influence conspiracy theorist

david ike ike's writings are a whole other story but essentially just expanded on these original concepts that a race of ancient

lizard-like creatures from another star live underground in bases throughout the world and have disguised themselves as

influential humans mainly royal bloodlines in wealthy dynasties the bush family the british

royal family and the rothschilds etc these creatures secretly feasted on

human flesh or had some other malicious purpose in mind for us ike's influence took these relatively

unknown ideas to the mainstream and as a result the conspiracy of the reptilians or reptoids took on a new life and

resonated particularly well among right-wing conspiracy theorists it is claimed that humans for thousands

of years have been encountering these beings and evidence of these interactions have been preserved in the

artwork and stories of ancient humans in the wake of this surge believers

searched the past for corroborating evidence ancient aliens featured several of these in their episode and i will

give a brief overview of them before we take a closer look one of the most common examples used to

prove the existence of reptilians are these mysterious figurines from neolithic mesopotamia modern-day iraq

they are one of the few pieces of physical evidence tangible artifacts used by proponents archaeologists know

them as the ubiad lizard people figurines excavated from several mesopotamian sites such as the

prehistoric cities of ur and iradu the clay statuettes are all dated to the ubiad period of the region and depict

humanoids with thin and elongated bodies coffee bean-shaped eyes and pinched

noses that give their faces an overall reptilian-like appearance ancient aliens posits that they are too realistic to

depict mythological or fantasy creatures and are in fact based on the real deal

living breathing lizard men and women encountered by our early ancestors

in addition to these figurines reptilian proponents use a wide variation of mythological stories and religious texts

from cultures around the world to suggest they are all talking about the same thing several cultures mention reptile gods or

powerful snake-like beings as we mentioned before shufelt believed that the hopi tribe of north america had one

such story ancient aliens primarily focuses on the hebrew bible they claim that the bible references the existence

of a serpent race called the saphiram according to them the snake or nahash in the garden of eden was just one of a

race and was completely humanoid prior to god punishing it for tempting eve in the garden south asian mythology

mentions the nagas ancient aliens defines them as a semi-divine race of serpent people with

the well of sushana serving as the entrance to the underground city of the nagas named

patala the jinn in islam and the feathered serpent gods of mesoamerica are also viewed as lizardmen too i could

go on but according to legend alexander the great was sired by a dragon all of this is to

say that according to these conspiracy theorists many different regions around the world share unmistakable

similarities that lend credence to the idea that humans have been interacting with a race of advanced subterranean

reptile humanoids pretty regularly throughout history from at least the neolithic until relatively recent times

hellenistic periods and so on now this is a lot to unpack at its surface

i'm so sorry i know i really need to stop doing puns the evidence for the reptilian conspiracy may seem a tad bit

compelling but this is only because of the way books and tv shows like ancient aliens have phrased and presented these

examples in reality the reptilian conspiracy is built on nothing more than blatant lies and misinformation

let's break it down let's start with that lost city of the lizard people warren g shufelt claimed

to have discovered under los angeles as this story seemingly jumpstarted the whole conspiracy in the first place

the count as told in the original la times newspaper and how many have since retold it is misleading if not entirely

wrong as it leaves out many crucial details for example you might be asking if these catacombs exist why are there

no pictures taken of them or of the supposed gold tablets well it's because the whole story is itself a bunch of

bunk all the claims of shufelt told to the press were completely unsubstantiated as

he never presented any kind of physical proof to back himself up not a single tablet or engraved stone

not even pictures taken inside the tunnels the radio x-ray device shufelt claimed

to have used to find the site in the first place was nothing more than a glorified dowsing rod when looked at

closer as it had nothing to do with either radio waves or x-rays as many of you might have guessed george

warren shufelt was not the most trustworthy of individuals if one looks back at the records he had a long

history of pulling publicity stunts just like this according to the newspaper records would-be treasure seekers have been

looking for gold beneath la's fort moore hill ever since the late 1890s long before shoe felt even started all of

them turned up empty a couple decades later on march 4th 1933

a very familiar name appears in an edition of the la times almost an entire

year before that very same newspaper would run the lizard people's story wait a minute

our old friend shufelt and a group of men had decided to pick up where the 1890s gold hunters left off and began

excavating fort moore hill oh not for reptilian gold but conquistador gold according to him in

his possession was an ancient sheepskin map indicating that spanish treasure had been buried under the hill over a

hundred years ago hundreds of gold doubloons were just waiting to be dug up in this version of events we get no

mention of the fabled lizard people warren shufelt's adventures are subsequently detailed pretty extensively

in the l.a times that year from march to april his team repeatedly petitioned the la board of supervisors for extensions

and funding on their project with the intent of splitting the treasure with the city once it was discovered

they would consistently claim they were just about to unearth their goal if only they had a little more time by september

of 1933 however shufelt and all but one of his original team officially gave up the search

it's not that the project ran out of money it said it just found nothing and the la board of supervisors had begun to

suspect that they were being duped even at the time few believe the claims of shoe felt in his accomplices

one article claims that they were heckled by street goers as they worked as the months wore on everybody seemed

to realize that the story was just a bunch of hot air reporter ed ainsworth mockingly wrote isn't it funny how early

spaniards seemed to do nothing but trapeze around the country with jackloads of gold bullion they never

apparently wanted to spin their gold it was yet another version of the typical dying prospector story one that

many at the time had not only heard but had been fooled by before we should not forget that the backdrop

for this whole incident was the height of the great depression in the united states thousands of unemployed men across the

country were in dire need of work and a wage the idea of uncovering a secret

cache of spanish gold to bring people from rags to riches was a tempting prospect in fact much of the digging was

done by hand as a public works project to provide jobs for the city of la during the depression

the story helped motivate people even if it was all for naught in the end seriously blame the great depression for

giving us reptilians the whole thing would have lapsed into obscurity if not for schufeld's infamous reappearance in

the l.a times in january 1934 in the article that we read before

yes shufelt after abandoning his project as a failure for some reason decided to return to the press for a second time

with a familiar but tweaked version of his original tale in this new version there was no mention

of a sheepskin map or spanish conquistadors instead schufeld claims

that all along he was searching for an ancient city belonging to the race of lizard people

this is also where we first hear about the character of little chief greenleaf and the hopi legend so here's the thing

why change the story so drastically and suddenly well as it turns out it appears shufelt

made it all up and i mean everything let's start with his source little chief green leaf in reality there is no record

of such a person ever existing according to the birth and death certificate databases of the hopi reservation

now this doesn't rule out his existence entirely but i find it rather suspicious that the only reference i can find to

this person ever existing is this single newspaper article wait a second i feel like i've been in

this situation before i suspect that shufelt might have created green leaf out of whole cloth

fabricating an indian persona for himself to use as a puppet and in doing so lend credibility to his story

likewise the supposed hopi legend of the lizard people living underground doesn't appear to exist either skeptic brian

dunning after consulting tribal writings and ethnographic accounts was completely unable to find any basis for the story

in actual hopi mythology in fact the hopi don't even live in california shufelt might have actually meant the

zuni tribe not the hopi as the zuni do in fact have a vaguely similar legend

about their ancestors living in underground caves it goes like this men and creatures were more alike than

the now our fathers were black like the caves they came from their skins were cold and scaly like those of mud

creatures their eyes were goggled like an owls their ears were like those of cave bats their feet were webbed like

those of walkers and wet and soft places they had tails long or short as they

were old or young men crouched when they walked or crawled along the ground like lizards

they feared to walk straight but crouched as before time they had in their cave worlds that they might not

stumble or fall in uncertain light shufelt's version is a bit of a bastardization of the original sunni

myth the real legend isn't talking about the city of intelligent lizard people it's a creation myth for humanity like

the story of genesis according to the zuni humans originated from caves and were once far more

animal-like until they went to the surface this mythology is definitely interesting but not exactly evidence of

anything but humans telling creative stories shufelt seemingly twisted the original myth to sound far more science-fictiony

than it really was by adding falling stars in advanced technology scholars have also noted that his

version is very reminiscent of pulp science fiction authors at the time particularly the works of robert e

howard of conan the barbarian fame and hp oh god why is my cat named that lovecraft

howard created the serpent bin of elusia while lovecraft created stories like the nameless city

it is entirely possible that schufeld was familiar with these stories and used elements of both in his claims about the

lost metropolis beneath la if i were to guess shufeldt saw that he

had taken the old spanish gold story as far as it could after failing to produce results the first time he needed

additional funding in a new audience using a combination of zuni myths and

science fiction stories he had read about he produced a fresh new tale to grab people's attention and get his

treasure hunting business back on track it doesn't appear like it worked for him

as i found little of note about shoe felt following 1934 he died in 1957 age 71. his grave is

apparently still in valhalla memorial park in north hollywood if anyone wants to check

[Music] as for la's fort moore hill it has been

excavated extensively since the time of shoe felt in 1938 a fair amount of dirt from the

hill was used to fill union station during its construction in 1949 the broadway tunnel was

demolished to make way for the new hollywood freeway both projects were extensive but failed to produce any

evidence of underground catacombs or gold the origin of the reptilian conspiracy

was essentially just some random guy's attempt to make a quick buck during the great depression

and here we are now but what about all those other artifacts and stories

let's talk about those convincing figurines the ubayad figurines were first discovered by archaeologists back

in the 1920s who described them as drab pottery figurine of a man evidently they

didn't find them the most exciting or interesting of ancient artifacts little did they know that their relatively

minor discovery would be proclaimed almost a century later as one of the most central pieces of evidence to a

grand conspiracy i think all the attention that the lizardmen figurines get might be the result of the general

lack of published studies on them by actual scientists the absence of expert voices leading to nutty theories taking

root let's hear what david has to say about them because of their elongated heads pointed

noses dots on the torso and coffee bean-shaped eyes earlier treatments of these figurines

called them ophidian suggesting they are snake-like it's true that because this isn't a

period before writing we don't know a whole lot about them but they may very well be stylized human

figures the strange head could be a mask worn during ceremonies or other special

occasions or it could be artificial skull elongation which was practice we know this in the

area at the time the marks on the body may be tattoos or scarification

there's been a lot of talk about what they look like and not as much talk about what they were used for they've

been found in graves and within settlements they were not children's toys because they're not

found in any children's graves and they're not effigies of the deceased

because well there are not enough differences between them as you would differentiate people right

but people appear to have owned these figurines during their lifetimes and then they were buried with them when

they died yes as david says we don't really know what these figurines were used for or

what they meant to these ancient people much attention has been brought to them but in truth there's just not much to go

on or even talk about we just picture these figurines as mysterious because we'd lack the writing

or folklore to explain their purposes and meanings not necessarily because they are particularly shocking they

could represent all kinds of things they could be depictions of gods or guardian spirits or fantasy monsters

ancestors priests and masks or goofy hairstyles their vaguely lizard-like appearance could just be the product of

art style we just don't know and probably will never know their true meanings but one thing is clear that

these figurines are likely not depictions of alien reptoids in a similar vein let us examine the

nagas of south asian folklore the nagas can indeed be found in south asian myth

our oldest source on the nagas is the indian epic mahabharata the earliest

form of which dates to around the 8th or 9th century bce and since then the

stories about them have been expanded and embellished they're depicted as serpents sometimes

holy snakes other times part snake and part human other times just human

the fact that they don't have a single form highlights the non-physical magical

aspect of the nagas and in the legends some are said to have been rulers the nagarajas and some claim they came from

sri lanka as we can see nagas an actual south asian myth are not the race of advanced humanoid reptiles ancient

aliens claims the stories about them have been twisted to say things they explicitly don't for example the

underground naga city of patala is actually a type of underworld in indian cosmology like hades or hell it exists

in the lower depths of the universe itself reptilian proponents even use images of indian stepwells as entrances to patala

but these stepwells are not mysterious to archaeologists or even that ancient the oldest of them were created in the

2nd century a.d and most others especially the more complex ones were made much later in the 900s and 1080.

and yes we know that they were made by human hands for the very utilitarian purpose of collecting water not

entrances to reptilian cities these wells are medieval claiming aliens built them as just as ridiculous as

claiming aliens built christian cathedrals in europe ancient aliens also butchers the bible by reading a little

well let's be honest a lot between the lines take their claim that the serpent and the guardian of eden was a

completely humanoid reptilian the interpretation of the genesis story the garden of eden has been the subject of

great debate for literally centuries over time many people not just ancient

aliens have made the text say things that it explicitly does not state at all the identity and importance of the

serpent is one of them as far as we can tell in the original story the genesis serpent or nahash was

just that a serpent the story as the ancient israelites understood it was that this nahash was merely the first

snake created by god an ancestor to every snake afterwards

you can explicitly see this in the language of the text now the serpent was more subtle than any

other beast of the field which the lord god had made the word nahash is also used elsewhere

in the hebrew bible to refer to completely ordinary snakes aspects of the garden of eden serve as a

creation story a story that was told by early humans to explain a natural phenomena that they encountered in daily

life something that is universal to all religions since the dawn of time people have

always asked questions why does it rain or why is childbirth so painful

why don't snakes have legs like other animals the bible is filled with these kinds of

mythic explanations according to the ancient israelites prior to god punishing it the snake had

legs like a lizard but due to his cleverness he was cursed to crawl on his belly

there are also similarities in the story to the ancient text the epic gilgamesh in the significantly older story the

king gilgamesh wants to attain immortality and almost achieves this by consuming a magical flower however

serpent steals it from him at the last second and as a result the animal sheds its skin and retains its youth thus

explaining why snakes shed their skin the idea that the snake in genesis was satan or lucifer in disguise is a much

later reinterpretation deserving of its own video many aspects of the story we interpret today are not found in the

original text genesis for example later christian art depicting the serpent as a female humanoid likely comes from again

a reinterpretation of the narrative where the character of the serpent was fused with that of lilith a demon-like

succubus that has a pretty complicated history in about itself i discussed this in a previous video so

you should check that out anyways the point is no the snake in the garden of eden was not meant to be

interpreted as a reptilian it's just a dang snake

speaking of which we should talk about that sephiram in the bible as well ancient aliens describes them as a

serpent race the garden of eden snake just being one of them seraphim is the plural form of the hebrew word saraf

seraph which indeed does refer to a supernatural or heavenly being the hebrew root of the word which means

to burn or incinerate may refer to the seraph's act of burning or destroying

the enemies of god iconography from ancient judah has been found depicting a seraph which is a

winged serpent it has similarities to the urais of egypt a serpent that was believed to

spit fire this coincides with verses in the bible such as numbers 21 6-8 and deuteronomy 8

15 which speaks of fiery serpents and isaiah 14 21 which speaks of a flying

serpent all instances using the word seraph is a flying snake a reptile sure but a

winged serpent doesn't really coincide with the description of the reptilians that ancient aliens gives

they aren't humanoid it's true that a passage in genesis 3 14 has been interpreted by some to mean

that the snake originally had legs but this wouldn't automatically indicate it was humanoid

humans aren't the only creatures with legs after all ancient aliens does this a lot with

mythologies where they take these magical and fantastical stories 100 literally and this is simply a wrong way

to view them this is the type of show that sees a guy wearing a crocodile costume and thinks

it's an eyewitness sketch of an alien lizard that's what we're working with here the truth is humans are an

incredibly creative and imaginative species we love making things up mythologies around the world are filled

with chimeras absurd monsters made up of different parts of real animals haphazardly stitched together sumerian

mythology had bulls with the faces of men and the wings of eagles they had mermaids and scorpion men egyptians had

jackal-headed men and crocodile hippo hybrids creating stories about lizardmen

doesn't seem like it would be beyond their imagination as any child will tell you just because we dream up monsters and draw them

doesn't mean they are actually real what ancient aliens and other conspiracy theorists just don't seem to understand

about mythologies is that they are built on human imagination they grow and develop over time

changing with each retelling of the story to best suit the audience and the storyteller take for example the

mythical creature medusa we know medusa today as the beautiful woman in greek mythology she is

typically depicted as a woman with venomous serpents for hair however she was not always envisioned

like this in her oldest surviving depictions she looks much different shown to be far more centaur-like with

the hindquarters of a horse that's right medusa was originally a horse girl this fact actually makes way more sense

in the original myth with her role as the mother of pegasus interestingly if we fast forward a couple centuries later

we can see that ancient greek artists changed the story and re-envisioned her as a monstrous ogre-like creature and a

couple centuries after that she was viewed as far less grotesque pretty similar to the image we have

today mythologies are dynamic they're not meant to be taken as literal history

they're often magical stories that exist to teach some kind of moral lesson upon closer inspection all these

reptilian stories from around the world are very different there's no uniformity to them conspiracy theorists like to

play fast and loose with their definitions of what counts as a reptilian story it appears that any

mythology that describes a vaguely reptile-like monster or spirit is instantly jumped on as proof of ancient

aliens encounters snakes and lizards are everywhere you can find them on all but one of the

seven continents so it's no wonder that snake or lizard-inspired monsters appear in a lot of religions and myths

at the end of the day these stories are just that stories they don't prove anything except our species ability to

use our imagination and that's the really disappointing thing about the reptilian conspiracy is

that it's built on such flimsy non-existent evidence it's such a dumb story that you would hope that its

origins would be much more interesting but in the end it's just a bunch of nothing built on plagiarism after

plagiarism and nutty science fiction-inspired interpretations of old myths

and this is where i'd like to take the time to acknowledge that the whole conspiracy has a rather unsavory undertone to it all and as silly as it

is it is not entirely harmless fittingly the idea of the reptilians is pretty much just a blatant plagiarism of

an older conspiracy one that has existed in western culture for centuries

anti-semitism in the belief that jewish people are not only evil but secretly controlling the world's government

christians even believed rumors that jews drank the blood of children just like the reptilians consuming humans

like cattle let's please put this toxic mess in the waste bin of history where it belongs

well this is kind of a depressing ending so uh here's lizard bill clinton we could be a

food source i'd like to thank dr david mayano again for joining me for this installment feel free to check out his

channel for great archaeology topics and with that thank you so much for watching i hope you learned something new

see you guys next time

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